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Police Officers' and Firefighters' Pension Board <br />March 26, 1998 <br />Page 8 <br />SCHLUCKEBIER: About all that you can do, might be to recommend to the City Commission <br />that they restructure the General Employees' Pension Board to perhaps a two member and a third <br />citizen or three appointees. <br />CHRISTIANSEN: We can do that with General Employees, we can't do that with Police and <br />Fire. <br />SCHLUCKEBIER: There are no Statutory requirements with General, it is just a matter of <br />preparing an ordinance. <br />CHRISTIANSEN: Jeff and I had talked with the turn of events with respect to everyone opting <br />out of the General Plan, whether you all want to continue that defined benefit plan. <br />SCHLUCKEBIER: We really would look to the Board for some kind of direction, the reason <br />being, there are several considerations (1) we obviously don't have a competitive pension benefit <br />plan given that there is a defined contribution plan and out of the forty possible candidates, all forty <br />opted for the defined contribution plan. One option is redefining vesting in the defined benefit plan <br />to either a seven or five year vesting period and possibly even opening the window back up to the <br />people that opted out of the benefit plan to rejoin the plan. <br />CHRISTIANSEN: So your thought is to make a change in the vesting period in the defined <br />benefit plan to make it more competitive. <br />SCHLUCKEBIER: We want to be as fair and forthright as possible. <br />CHRISTIANSEN: That is something that can certainly be done, so if you do want to change the <br />vesting to a shorter vesting period, we can certainly do that. <br />SCHLUCKEBIER: We have conflicting opinions on staff, the Finance Director who spends a lot <br />of time on paperwork believes with forty employees out none remaining in the defined benefit plan <br />would be the absolute perfect time to close that door. The Personnel Director believes the benefit <br />plan should be retained as a benefit the City offers. <br />CHRISTIANSEN: That is a decision the City is going to have to make and we can certainly, <br />legally terminate the plan, and if you are going to terminate the plan, I would recommend terminating <br />while there is nobody in it. I talked with our actuaries about this; I talked with the State Retirement <br />Division and the State indicated there would be no objections if the City wanted to terminate the <br />defined benefit plan and just have the defined contribution plan even though the City opted out of <br />the State Retirement. The State indicated there were a number of cities that have gone to a defined <br />contribution plan. The only concern expressed by the State was the funds remaining in the plan and <br />that in all fairness place the funds in accounts of the employees that opted out the value of their <br />